March 16th 2008

[Expresso]

Post what you would like help with. =)

[gilda]

i kinda like this advance notice ..good idea Expresso

[jasonlilli]

my most need thing i need some help with is my next piece of af the coffer in castle oz
i also will soon be needing to do lb3
and i would really like to get to rank 6 sandy missions i'm on 5-1 so i can do ToA and all the other stuff you need to be rank 6 for

so lol take your pick lol sorry btw this all makes me sound needy

Lilliana

[Vadreucant]

Glad you sound needy too Lil

Im on the CoP where you gotta get the item and take it to the top of the mountain not sure how that works. Also am willing to do what I can to help with anything that I can help with.

[typh]

It is highly advisable to post what time you're available to work on the things you ask for help with. I believe Garrison is scheduled at 5pm est... so, I recommend trying to get scheduled earlier in the day. Alot of the primary helpers tend to be pretty burnt out, after garrison.

Castle Oztroja: I can bring my thiefly abilities to bear, to squeeze a key out of those useless birds.

LB3: It stands to reason that we could complete the yagudo portion of this (the most difficult one to solo) after getting a coffer key, provided we start early and the key doesn't take all day to drop (and checking to see if the coffer is easily accessible). The quadav portion can be solo'd easily enough. The orc portion can be solo'd, if you have a crimson orb (not a difficult quest). It's not a bad idea to get a crimson orb, but there are those of us who have one to use on your behalf. I'm not against providing an escort, if others are willing and able.
wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Whence_Blows_the_Wind

I have 50cap gear for Warrior for 5-1 and I can be pld or thf for 5-2.

CoP 3-3: Talk to Sys. She's our mountain goat.

I'm free all day and if I see a schedule, I can plan to be on at a specific time... otherwise, the only guarantee is that I won't be late for Garrison.

[Brownster]

I need to do my BLM AF2 and AF3. Could I get help with that on Sunday?

[brownster]

Also, I'm available at any time on Sunday so whenever I can get help, it doesn't matter.

[kamel]

I would like some help with my paladin AF body. Quest consists of getting the coffer from castle vahlz then making a run to davoi and killing monstersffxi.allakhazam.com/db/quests.html?fquest=291
i will be on in the morning early and also if anyone is interested i wouldlike to do BCNM celery for my knightly mantle.

[typh]

I would be willing to do Celery as pld... I'd rather not do it on help night, though.

I'm planning a run for CoP 3-5 at noon... outside of that, I should be free to farm coffer keys. I don't hunt coffers though... I've proven enough times that it only takes one person to find a coffer.

[jasonlilli]

i should be on all day sunday maybe sometime before the garrison i am lying dead in castle oz now lol but thats where i need help for the coffer and i'm on the last part of lb3

[xxbigmandanxx]

i really need a hand with getting the jewels or w/e from attowha casm and the climb on mountain before the cop run . if it cant be done i dont mind waiting .. maybe we could set up a 2nd run next week maybe saturday? that way can keep garrisson a sunday event and more ppl have time to go .. i personally am on and off pc all day saturdays but would like to try a garrisson if i have time to devote next week if its a sunday thing

[typh]

Hey BMD... have you tried to do 3-3 yet? When I got done with 2-5, the first thing I did was look up 3-3 to see what was needed and concluded that I had a good chance of soloing it. I went out to Attoohwa Chasm and killed the antlion and then I spent a good long while trying to find my way up the mountain... not everyone can do it... I got pretty close, but in the end, I needed help. How do you know if you can do it? You don't, until you try. The mobs that drop chips (in Pso'xja) can be solo'd by some jobs. It will be far from a very fun or efficient kill, but it's totally doable. The fact is, we did 2-5 a significant amount of time ago. People have been available ALL this time to help with these things. People have set aside time and tried to motivate the people who need this to get it done. I find it rather unacceptable and quite surprising that anyone hasn't gotten it done... not to mention, to be asking for it to be done at the last minute... on the day itself.

As for scheduling updates:
Garrison was done today and is not a factor
CoP 3-5 is happening at 9amPST/12pmEST
Kamel, Lilliana, Brownster: I'll be checking to see if you're on after CoP is done, to try to help with AF... I recommend knowing what you need to do, ahead of time, so that we can just go do it

Everything else, depends on how the day goes and who's around to be of help.

[xxbigmandanxx]

i actually asked for help friday evening after i spent all day doing the CS's when i found out the run was being organised and none was available and also again on saturday but every

[xxbigmandanxx]

ops hit tab enter .......
... one was doing garrison .. i waited until 2 am my time asking for ppl to come still but again no help .
i tried anyway .. maybe not hard enough for you but i tried anyway
as for being unnacceptable maybe u should remember urself .. u tried and failed to solo .. so did every1 else i asked .. is kind of weird to expect sum1 else to go and die be4 ud help them but ok maybe ill do that next time .. hell maybe ill take a reraise earing and delvl otw up the mountain thatd be fun >.>
anyway if we can get another run organised thatd be great if not ill see if i can find another group to go with .

[typh]

See... this shows me how very little you have even thought about this mission... and how little attention you paid my post before responding. I solo'd the antlion easily... there's no death in failing to climb the hill... it's just either you get there, or you don't and all you lose is time. As for all your attempts to get this done... waiting til this weekend was waiting til the last minute. It was well-known that there was alot planned this weekend. You couldn't be dragged away from your crafting (for the record, a craft will wait and it won't complain about wasting its time waiting for you)... you waited until people were ready to go and then wanted them to wait for you while you do your CSs that you'd had plenty of time to get done beforehand... you simply didn't bother. Either this stuff is important to you, or it's not. None of us have time or inclination to hold anyone's hand through these. we're all capable of looking at wiki and knowing what we need to do to be prepared and how much we're capable of doing on our own. If you need your hand held, then maybe you don't have what it takes to get through these missions.

You can be offended by this post... gods know I'm not being nice... your other option is to take note of the valid points I'm making and recognize that I AM giving you constructive advice, as laced with cynicism as it may be. The choice is yours.

[xxbigmandanxx]

im kinda pissed off defending myself so i'm not going to .. this is a game .. an addictive 1 .. but a game, and we are all part of a group that choose to play the game together .. so y arent we doing it all together?
soloing any cop mission weather solo able or not when were supposed to do it together seems lazy
if we all go together we know we are all at the same point .. but this obviously doesn't seem more officiant to you.
u may read this and decide to write back with some more over the top vocabulary and some "Cynasism" or whatever but ur comment was a reply to a plea for help 16 hours before cop started, if u weren't willing to help me do the cs+nm like i asked, u didn't have to, it would have been nice of u but ur not obliged to help anybody. all i ask is that when u decide not to help somebody u try restrain yourself from leaving crappy comments on forums to try make yourself look more knowledgeable or better at a GAME than them when it is after all a game .I play this game to have fun and use the forums as a tool to know what is happening and where i can help or let ppl know what i can be helped with , i don't play the game to get through it efficiently or use the forums to argue with members of the LS , so if ud kindly stop being an argumentative shite on the forums and get on with whatever else u do of an evening it would be much appreciated as i have no time for ppl with such a horrible argumentative attitude towards ppl they hardly know maybe u will accept some of my constructive criticism be4 u ruin other ppls opinion of urself as i personally think u are an not a very nice person .

i appoligise to any1 else who is reading what seems to be a conversation that could have been settled in /tell but i feel it necessary to write this in the forum where others can see it to maybe help typh realise being spoken to like crap publicly isnt nice.

[typh]

blacklisted

[oldgrif]

Curious, ppl wonder why ppl stop helping others. I have seen typh helping everyone in this shell and w/o asking for anything in return. He has helped farm Nook's testimonies, helped w/ ToAU missions, helped Karo get his gloves, etc. I could go on and on. What he asks for (which is completely reasonable) is that ppl know what they need to do (and where), and are prepared to do it. Meaning all cutscenes done, NPC's talked to, quests open and active.

I may not always agree with Typh but, he proves his spirit by his actions. He actually helps ppl.

Thank you Typh.

[xxbigmandanxx]

i dont have an issue with how much help ppl give to the ls , if ppl werent busy im sure somebody would have helped ingame either came out and helped/ or gave advice along the same lines as typh .. but without the attitude and "cynicism" or the "not being nice" as i said be4 i dont play this game with the view to finishing quickly its taken me 5 years to get to my current stage and patience is something i have alot of . and id rather do it propperly than rush if this isnt the case with other ppl thats fine but i dont like to be spoken to like a prat by sum1 i barely know on a game-forum for asking for help. after all it is a game and people need to lighten up.
typh has also helped me a couple of times once with cop mammets and hes always there with info when ppl asked and a good addition to the ls in many respects .. i just dont feel moody sarcastic comments and the "Not being nice" has a place on a forum for others to read.

[gilda]

PLEASE BE REMINDED!

I would just like to remind everyone that this is NOT the place to post your arguments.
This tread is designed to help ppl.
And when you read this tread it is also a place where you will find sugesstions/constructive criticism.
If you do not agree with it, that is ok, but take at least a 24hrs to reflect before responding.
Thank you